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Wednesday, July 20, 2005  

Writing and Blogging.


After being well-delayed by various vacations during the month of June, I worked pretty heavily on the novel over the past few days, and have at last put another chapter to bed. It's finished, at least well enough to print out and let my mom and Malaya have a look at it, and while a chapter doesn't sound like that much, my problem with this novel is how goddamned long the chapters are. Call them "sections" or something like that if you prefer, since they have multiple mini-chapters in them; 26 in the one I just finished, dividing up the 85,000 words into managable chunks. The total for the four chapters to date: around 370,000 words.

To put this into comparison, I'll look at the novel on my desk. The Other Wind, by Ursula K. LeGuin, is 246 pages long, with 30 pages per line (relatively large print) and about 11 words per full line. Simple math tells us that's 330 words per page x 246 pages = 81180 words. So this whole novel is shorter than my last chapter, and it's probably quite a bit shorter, since LeGuin's novel has blank pages where chapters begin, lots of lines are shorter when paragraphs end or there is dialogue, and so on. It's likely down around 78k for the actual word count. Longer novels are usually in the 120k or 150k range for 350-400 pages, with really long (fantasy, often) ones getting up over 200-250k for the 750-900 page doorstops.

So in theory I've written nearly a trilogy's worth so far, or at least a novel and a sequel, and I'm barely getting started with my story. Chapter one introduces the two main characters and tells of some of their early adventures, and while the novel version is much changed from the early D2 Halloween story online, it's still recognizable as the same story, and it alone is 44,500 words. That's more than half the length of this entire novel by LeGuin, and in terms of the novel as a whole, chapter one is just a brief introduction; like that opening action scene in every James Bond movie. Chapters 2 and 3 are more about the two characters and their traveling and getting to know each other, and then 4 is where stuff starts to happen as they interact with others in their magical, medieval world, before other characters come in in chapter 5, and the novel really takes off. In theory it's better to be too long than too short, since I can always edit down, but damn... when the story isn't in full swing yet and you're into book 3, that might be a problem.

Four is actually the most on target chapter yet though, since chapter one, in terms of having minimal dead time and keeping things moving along. It's also somewhat similar in form, since 1 and 4 both tell an exciting tale of one night's wild adventures with fights and escapes and magic and treasure and such. Apparently my writing style tends to run very long on words, and while it's not really a conscious technique, I really detail every bit of action and thoughts by the characters as I'm telling an action scene. See the link to chapter one online for an example. In light of that, I don't see how I can cut down the length that much from her on out through the 10 or 11 total chapters, since so much of the remainder of the book is one wild action scene after another.

I could easily cut out most of the background stuff and world info and downtime, and just do a bunch of, "...two months later, Valena looked up at the city gates they were riding towards and thought of the battle that was sure to come..." but given how long my descriptions of battles and action sequences run, that wouldn't necessarily make it much shorter. Plus I don't want to ruin it by writing it differently than I've envisioned it all along.

So I'll just keep plugging away and trying to get right to the point in each chapter, and if it's really, really long... it's really, really long. I hope the eventual editor/publisher doesn't force me to cut it to the bone, but in any event I'm saving all of my supersized drafts, so they'll always be around for some future unexpurgated edition, even if my grandchildren have to publish it posthumously, for your grandchildren to read on their holobook displays.

Oh yeah, and I part of the reason I was posting this book blub was to explain why there haven't been many blog entries for the last couple of days, and why I haven't read more than about 100 pages in total of the 4 novels I've got lying open at the moment. I've got notes written for half a dozen interetsing blog entries, I've got 4 book/movie reviews to write, and so on, but since I've been working on the novel so much to finish reviewing chapter four, I haven't gotten to any of that. And I can't say when I will, since I'm eager to start on chapter five later today, once we've gone shopping and hit a martial arts store for some new weapons. Practice (no blade) broadswords, hopefully.
Comments:

"with 30 pages per line (relatively large print)"

11 words per line, makes that 1/3rd of a word per page.

That is a pretty big print :)


 

Perhaps there's a way to restructure the storyline to make each chapter into a stand-alone book with some kind of adventure to create an end-yet-not-end stopping point.

Then again, maybe it's good enough to be printed mostly as is. I remember the novel Sacajawea by Anna Lee Waldo - for a topic that might be considered a not very profitable risk - it's a HUGE stand-alone novel. The print is definitely not large, either.

Have you considered sending an outline and a couple chapters to an agent just to see what their reaction/advice might be?

Never know!


 

Oops sorry, I swear I put in a name and said 'other'...the above was by me. :P


 

Plans to send out an outline and sample "chapters" (or some reasonable fascimile thereof, given the size/length of them) are on for later this summer, once I've gotten at least halfway through. I'd like to do a chapter a month, and in theory they'll speed up, since each chapter (since the infinite journey that was chapter 2) has required much less reworking and rewriting.

The thing is, I can't see it being published all as one novel, since it would be 2000 pages. Or at least 1500, even with many cuts (assuming I don't have to gut it completely to get some publishing cash). So it would have to be published in 2 or 3 books, with an easy parallel to the Lord of the Rings, which the publisher broke up against Tolkien's wishes. Unfortunately, the way it's structured now I can't see where it would divide up very well. Possibly in half would work, since chapter 5 is going to end with sort of a cliff hanger and it's sort of half the book, in terms of introducing almost all of the main characters. If i cut half the length off of chapter 2, 1-5 and 6-10 would even work out pretty well, in terms of being equal length. Hypothetically speaking of course, since 6-10 exist only in my brief outline, though I do know pretty well what's going to happen all through them.

I'm mostly curious to see how my writing style plays with professionals; if they'll think it's horrible since it's so different and so much longer/more detailed than how most other authors write, or if they'll embrace it as something new and different and not try to smash my square peg into their round Salvatore-shaped "quick fight scene cliched hero saves the world" hole.

I should send it to Martin's agent, or at least publisher; they'd realize that there's a market for adult-targeted fantasy with mature themes and complex plots that take some time to unfold. Not that my plot is 1/50th as complicated and intricate as Song of Ice and Fire, but just for instance...


 

Sacajawea was 1400 pages and published as one volume. There's always hope.

Although I agree 2000 pages as one book is, alas, unlikely to occur. The publishing costs vs. retail price they can charge becomes too prohibitive.

I'll be eager to hear what kind responses/suggestions come back from agents/publishers - assuming of course, that you feel like sharing them at the time. :)


 

I think it'll be more like, "assuming, of course, that I am legally allowed to share them/able to share them without irreparably damaging my prospects for future publication." But anyway...


 

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