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BlackChampagne -- no longer new; improvement also in question.: Homophobia and penises...



Tuesday, June 20, 2006  

Homophobia and penises...


I've blogged on pretty much this exact subject before, but since that was nearly three years ago, I hope you'll indulge me again. Tonight, while giving photo.net a scan, I ended up (as I suppose most people do) skimming over a few pages of the recent, most highly-rated nudes. This is easier than it used to be, since they added a photo type sorting option, which they should probably just put "nudes" on top of, then go alphabetical, like most of those web forms do with "United States" when you get to the "country" box.

Anyway, I thought this shot (all photo links in this post should be assumed to be NSFW) was exceptionally nice (and completely asexual), and this one was >sort of sexy, while lacking anything approaching the quality implied by its very high viewer scores. Those shots aren't worth a blog entry, and honestly, these next two wouldn't be either... if not for the amusing hysteria they inflict upon several commenters.

I saw this one first. It's a side view of a nude black male, in which you can see a profile view of most of his penis. Pretty unremarkable really, but amusing thanks to one Remo Bodie:
You should devote your time to posting such photos on some gay site.
--Remo Bodie , June 19, 2006; 12:45 P.M.

One can evaluate photographs--light, composition, whatever without this kind of trash..This is just another opportunity for you gay boys to get excited. Sad..
--Remo Bodie , June 19, 2006; 07:56 P.M.
Yes, he felt a need to post twice, and yes, it's a childish joke that writes itself, but do you suppose his seven hour later return visit necessitated a second (or third, or thirteenth) long, lingering look at the penis that so disturbed him? I hardly need to point it out, but you'll notice at a glance that there's nothing even remotely sexual about the photo. The penis is not erect, the man's alone, he's posing outdoors beside a swimming pool, etc. He just happens to be naked. You may or may not find that erotic, but it's borderline madness to say it's something only for gays (male ones, one supposes Remo means) to view.

It gets better. Check out this one, with a white guy kneeling in an artist type pose, with his head down, hands between his knees, shoulders held taught, etc. Oh, and you can see most of penis. OMG, penis!
I think what Mr. Hicks is getting at, the sole apparent purpose is to show the person's erect penis, which puts it in the pornographic catagory.
--Gary Eaton , June 13, 2006; 12:08 P.M.

Looking for a date? NOT HARDLY!! It just seemed plausible that you must be gay considering your obvious attraction to male nudity. I am a happily married heterosexual male. I just find it disturbing that a decent website like this one attracts those of "alternate lifestyles" as a medium to post their fantasies.
--Remo Bodie , June 15, 2006; 06:36 P.M.
I don't mean to pick on Remo here, since there are a few other posters almost as ignorant as him (check out post #3 by Tim Hicks, which even aside from its laughable content, is a masterpiece of verbose, multisyllibic incoherence), but man does Remo have some issues. He (again) makes multiple posts in the thread, returning multiple times over several days to make them (and gaze anew upon the offending member, one assumes). Note also that he says the model is aroused, which is clearly untrue. Does this judgement stem from an unfavorable comparison betwixt the size of the penis Remo sees staring (peeking) up at him every day and the one in the picture?

So what motivates this sort of reaction to the photo? Remo (and the others who are so stirred by the male nudes) don't seem to be insecure teenagers, at least judging by their words, and none of them are quoting scripture or throwing down Christian/Mormon/Islamic motivations for their displeasure. So what's their problem? Why would grown men give such a damn? They can't claim to be mere prudes, since they're going out of their way to condemn the very rare male nudes on a photo site which hosts literally thousands of far more explicit female nudes. Look through the nudes if you're curious or prurient or whatever, but it took me about 30 seconds clicking through the thumbnails of the past week to find multiple female nudes with far more sexual content than these male shots, and not one of them has a single comment that's disapproving of the content. Example one, two, three, and four, and look at that last one if no other; it's a butt shot with visible labia and an inviting, if shadowed, anus. Imagine the homophobic hysteria one could whip up by simply recreating that shot with a hairy man's ass? You can almost hear the wolves baying about sodomy just thinking about it.

After all the talking though, I've got to do what I did last year and end at this point. Yes, it seems ridiculous that otherwise sane (in theory) men (and women, at least in the post from 2003) are so freaked out by a male nude, while not stirring a finger at female nudes, but as for why... I've got no answer. It might be entertaining to question Remo or one of his fellows, but I don't think it would be very enlightening. They feel how they do and their beliefs are probably impervious to logic of an explanatory or comparative nature. In their world visible penis is a horrible thing and male nudes have no artistic merit, and nothing you could say would change their minds on that issue. They're silly, but hey, at least no one trotted out the tired, "think of the children who might view this filth" argument so many fools were using about the image I posted on back in 2003.

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I remember that post from several years ago. It got me to thinking more about male nudity in other areas as well. Specifically in Movies.

At a time when it is not uncommon for any movie not aimed at children to have at least some female nudity in it, there is rarely ever any male nudity. When there is male nudity it is a huge story. The last movie I can think of which featured a brief shot of penis was Sideways. Which I remember the naked penis only because of all the news stations telling me how offended I was by it -without them I might never have known I was offended. That movie makes for a great example though, since it featured female nudity and actual sex scenes, yet it was a 1 second flash of limp penis that supposedly makes it "distasteful smut".

That led me to my theory on just why photos/movies that show penis are so bad. It is all about male insadequacy. Powerful men with small penises don't want women, or anyone else for that matter, to ever see an average penis. That way, when faced with his small penis, the woman (man?) won't have a point of reference for comparison. Maybe that also explains why some people are so adamant about only having missionary sex, and only with the lights off.

Of course that theory would just explain why the penis is rarely seen in the male dominated movie industry. As for why someone like Mr. Bodie would go to a website with lots of beautiful photos, and only an occasional, tasteful nude photo, actively seek out only the photos of men, and comment on their pornographic nature, well that really has to be about his hatred of the fact that he enjoys looking at them.

I spent probably 30 minutes going over photos on that site, looking only at the photos of seductive and or nude women. I wanted to see if Mr. Bodie made any comments on any of those photos, but eventually my hand got tired (from clicking, you see), and I never found such comments. That leads me to think that Mr. Bodie really wants to be looking at www.dilf.com (don't go to that site, it is exactly what you would expect. Just like milf, only with Dads an a lot more explicit) and hates himself for it. Is that really homophobia?


 

Just an idea, but thought i might try an expansion of the "corrupting the children" arguement. So if you are someone like Mr Bodie and you have a son, the most terrible thing that could happen would be if said son turned out to be gay no? As such Mr Bodie would want to do everything in his power to make said son hetronormative in sexual tastes. So having this son only exposed to female forms in a sexy way with no sexy male forms willl get the little guy thinking that sexy only happens with women not with men? As such when he goes looking for some sexual fun he will pursue women not men, and the crisis of the gay son is averted (halleluja!). The problem now is that Mr Bodie's poor daughter might end up the same, but then again, lesbians arent nearly as threatening, since if porn has taught us anything its that a pair of lesbians are just a threesome waiting for a man.
Ah well... just an attempt to work that arguement through, which I of course do not endorse at all and think is blatant bullshit...


 

I would say both those guys, particularly the second one, are at least semi-hard, so it does 'sort of' cross a boundary.

Those shots of women are all nice and artistic, but you don't see any of them dripping vaginal juices or anything, so there's no sign of arousal whatsoever, which makes them more artistically acceptible, rather than being labelled porn like these ones.

Not saying I agree with the people who posted, but I can see why they might think the way that they do about these 2 photos, particularly if they think those guys are erect (fully or not).


 

As for the suggestion that these photos are just for gay men or something, that's really really weak, and even if they were, so what?

I can find hundreds of sexually explicit photos of naked guys on the internet within seconds, but trying to find artistic ones is very hard. I once came across some forums that hosted a whole lot of content from gay artists who focused on the body/lifestyle, and the majority of it was rubbish, and most of it was drawings or paintings, very few photographs. Usually when you do get artistic photos of male nudes, they're big beefy muscle hunks, so its nice to get some variety, as well.


 

That black guy has a really HUGE cock, especially if it is not at least partially erect, which it does appear to be if compared with my equally gigantic schlong.

As for whether these male pictures are art or porn, I can see it either way and it makes no difference to me. The conventional view, however, is that the female form is more artistically accepted than pictures of oversized cocks or semi-erect teenagers looking down in wonder at their own organs.


 

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