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BlackChampagne -- no longer new; improvement also in question.: The Computer Gods Were Angered



Friday, October 20, 2006  

The Computer Gods Were Angered


Predicatably enough, after I took my computer's quality in vain in the last post, especially in regards to my antique 60gig hard drive... bad things happened. The drive had been thrashing a bit lately, making that godawful "whirr ka-chunk, whiff ka-chunk" noise from time to time, but after my last post it suddenly accelerated in frequency, and better yet, the hard drive started locking up entirely. Last night it froze three times in about twenty minutes, and a stuck hard drive is not something Windows takes kindly. It locks out all mouse and keyboard commands, and you've basically got no option but to physically turn off your tower and reboot.

After those three it settled down a bit and I got work done for a few hours, at a "type three words, Control+S" type pace, but then it started crashing again around bedtime. I didn't think it would help, since the hard drive sounded like it was experiencing physical errors, but I ran the check disk repair function... or at least I tried to, since the hard drive locked up in the middle of it. Twice.

I gave up at that point and just got to bed at my usual two hours past bedtime, and when I got up Thursday I'd pretty well decided to get a new computer. This one continued not working when I tried it after rising, but as I watched the chkdsk lock up (at around 12%) and fail three times in a row, I realized that a new computer was kind of pointless, right now. This one is antediluvian, but if I'm going to upgrade I might as well wait a few months and get Vista bundled with a new machine.

I kept thinking about it while I drove to Fry's, and while I browsed their selection. Computers have gotten amazingly cheap since I last paid any attention to new models; there were new machines at Fry's with far better specs than the one I'm now using for around $500. Machine with far more storage space, a better 3d card, more RAM, etc were under $1000, and while I was tempted, I decided to be fiscally-wise and just got a new hard drive. They're damn near free now too, and I picked up a five year warranty Hitachi 160gig drive for $89. And that wasn't even on sale!

Of course the new hard drive was just the beginning of my fun, since I had to open up my tower and vacuum out about a 3rd cat's worth of fur, then install the new drive as the master and boot directly from it via Windows XP. I uncoupled my old one entirely, since it was locking up constantly, and while I didn't know what Windows would do if the slave drive crashed, I doubted it would be a good thing.

Installing Windows was as much fun as ever, and one that was done I hooked up the old drive as the slave, and spent about 3 hours copying files over. The fun part was that the old drive locked up literally every 5-10 minutes, so I'd turn on the machine, quickly click open two explorer windows, scroll down to multimedia/music or whatever I was copying over, and drag a folder or two. Then I'd sit and watch it copy while listening to the old HD thrash and groan, and sometimes keep running, but most of the time now. I'd then turn off the tower, give it a minute to cool off, turn it back on, and start back up where I'd left off, trying to remember which folder I'd been copying when things had locked up.

It certainly beat starting over from scratch with all my files lost, and I had my critical notes files and writing documents and other essential things backed up to zip drives and webservers just in case, but it was still a boring way to kill an evening. Better yet, I still have to spend some hours downloading and unzipping and reinstalling every program I use, and then trying to copy and integrate my backed up files so I don't lose all my archived emails and instant messages and such. Plus I get to re-enter dozens of passwords on all the websites I visit, reset all my custom appearance options, download all the windows security updates and antivirus updates, etc, etc. Computers sure are good at saving time and increasing productivity.

Update: Say what you will about M$, but they certainly crank out more than their fair share of product and security updates. Perhaps they need to because their initial design is so lacking, but whatever the reason, it took me like 4 hours to download and install and update all the OS and security patches released over the 5 years of XP. I feel so much safer now!

Also, this probably isn't news to anyone, but surfing sucks when you don't have all your ad blockers working! I was wincing at some of my usual sites last night, there were so many huge, horrible ads. Ones with tiny movies running all along the right side border, etc. No wonder people (without appropriate ad blocking software) are always complaining about the ads.

Finally, I was a day late approving the comments from two days ago, since um... my computer was broken, but bonus points to Kim for hitting her prediction on the head.

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Been there, done that.

We've now got 1.280 tb on a RAID 5 redundant storage array in our network, which means any 1 hard drive out of the 4 can fail and it'll all still work. If 2 fail you're toast, though, which can very well happen due to physical outside sources, such as power failure for example.

At least you managed to get stuff off it - you're very lucky.

At the first sign of weird clunky noises you should have started to prepare for a HD death, most of the time you get no warning at all.


 

I'm still using 2 130GB hd myself, or something like that. I'm pretty ruthless about deleting 'leftover' files after working on a project and burning files to my 4 or 8GB DVD's, tho.

Most people have no need for tb's of HD space for one pc, tho admittedly it would be handy at times. :D I think we were looking at the 500GB HD's last night, in fact, lol. Hubby wants to set up a lot of partitions and run different O/S on the same pc, that sort of stuff. heh


 

Just a comment about the hard drive you bought and my new opinion of Fry's Electronics. I used to be extremely jealous of not living anywhere near Fry's, since Blizzard tends to do all sorts of goodie events there, but no longer; judging from the price you paid for your 160 gig hard drive, you got ripped, bad. Or I got a spectacular deal--but just a month ago I bought a 300gig Maxtor drive with 7200 RPM and a 16MB cache for 94 USD--and that was the flat Tigerdirect.com rate; no rebates to screw around with or anything. I'm also equipped with a 3 year warranty on the thing from the manufacturer. With that nice cache and spindle speed, the drive actually runs faster as an external through a USB port than my current internal--an ancient, Gateway brand 20 gig piece of crap--now holding Windows XP and not much else. (I'd turn my Maxtor into the primary, but I need to haul it back and forth from home to the computer labs on campus to transfer big digital photos around.)

Anywho, I wouldn't say you got completely shredded on the deal--Hitachi is an exceptional brand, and if it fails, you can probably drive right back to Fry's and get a new one--if mine screws up, I'm stuck with digging out old sales receipts and hoping there's not some stupid "warranty only applies if" clause.

Bottom line though; if Fry's charges that much for most of their computer hardware, then something's not right in Dodgeville. Or, like I postulated before, I might have just been lucky and got a special sale. More likely, I have no knowledge of hard drives at all and I probably bought something with the Maxtor name on it and third party parts, much like they do with video cards.

Great job getting the files off it though--glad you could do that.


 

Hmm, $89 for a 160 gig / 7200 RPM HD isn't that good, actually.

At first look I thought it was good, but in NZ $'s that's about $140, and I can get them for $106.81 for the same Hitachi drive.

There are 3, potentially 4 factors in play here for the price difference that you've found, nick:
1. The $94 you paid is probably only for the drive itself, nothing more. The $89 Flux payed is probably the 'retail box' price, where it comes in a nicely printed big box with cables and stuff in it. Funny thing is, you can't even really get hard drives like that in NZ, everything here is just the drive all by itself.
2. Tigerdirect and other online places typically have lower prices than brick 'n' mortar retailers, for rather obvious reasons.
3. Maxtor isn't actually a very good brand, and the 3 year warranty vs 5 year warranty is a big deal on hard drives, as they are the most failure-prone component of a computer. Maxtor were recently bought out by Seagate, who have decided to keep the brand name, but relegate it to the cheap 'value' product range - always something to steer-clear of if you want a computer that is going to work without hassles, and there isn't much less of a hassle than your hard drive dying.
4. You may have easily got that on a special deal, they have them quite frequently.

A while ago Costco were selling 400gig 16mb cache retail Western Digital hard drives for $99, but only in select stores and only if you went into the shop, they weren't taking online orders for them.


The difference between Fry's and Tigerdirect, of course, is that you can just drive down to Fry's, 20 mins from your house, pick something up and have it installed half an hour later. Beats waiting a couple of days for a part that you desperately need.


 

As lanth says, I had to have it asap, with a big project due Saturday. (And a bigger one monday, unfortunately.) So no time to shop around, and they had no sales going, and I wanted one with good quality and a warranty (mostly since those are less likely to break). They had no name stuff for a lot cheaper, and I could have gone larger for much less per gig, but I don't need that much space and this is a very old computer anyway.

Most likely I'll get a decent 3d card and put some more RAM on it once HGL comes out, and Malaya can use this one to play (no Mac for HGL), and i'll get a new computer or maybe laptop for my needs/HGL fun next year.


 

Uh-oh. Looks like I ended up with a sort of budget hard drive. And you're right; the drive didn't come in a retail box or anything; just packaged in plastic and a box of peanuts--oddly enough, the cables came with the enclosure I bought for it.

Well, I saved some money, but it might screw me over in the longrun; lets hope this sucker lasts a decent amount of time.

On a side note, I will now be going totally brand name (and do some more research) if and when I pick up a new video card. My GForceFX 5200 with 128 RAM is really showing its age. Half Life 2 on 640x480 resolution with all detail off, anyone? Okay, I can have some of the details on medium, but in an FPS game, speed is everything.


 

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