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BlackChampagne -- no longer new; improvement also in question.: Republican-favoring polls?



Thursday, November 09, 2006  

Republican-favoring polls?


Prior to Tuesday's election, many right wing commenters made claims that polls were wrong and skewed and that they favored Democrats and were just more evidence of the vast left wing media conspiracy. The media, they claimed, was exaggerating Democratic leads in an effort to discourage Republicans from voting. (Of course if the polls had had Repubs ahead, the same commentors could/would have said the liberal media was doing that in order to motivate Democrats to vote and to give Repubs complacency.) The money quote from useful idiot Hugh Hewitt:
I get a lot of e-mail asking me why I point to polls like the one favoring Steele when I discount some polls favoring some Democrats.

Because this question comes mostly from lefties, I will pause to explain in as uncomplicated a fashion as possible.

Polling methodology and models favors Democrats.

So polls that show Republicans tied or ahead I see as indicating a race in which the Republican is in the lead.

Polls that show a Republican within striking distance I see as a poll indicating a dead heat.

It shouldn't be that hard to grasp, even for a lefty.
Now that the election is over and we've got actual voting totals to look at, who was correct? Unsurprisingly, not Hugh Hewit. As Glenn Greenwald documents, the polls were quite accurate, and when they were wrong, the error was on the side of Republicans. In Rasmussen's closest 11 senate races, 2 were picked correctly, 2 were 1% and 2% off towards the Democrat, and the other 9 all erred towards the Republican, several by substantial amounts; 5%, 5%, and 7%. Real Clear Politics averages polls from across the country, and their results for these same 11 Senate races erred to the Repub side on 8 of the 11, and when they erred toward Democrat it was by just 1-3%.

Anyway, go read the whole post if you want more; I'm just restating at this point. It's fun to gloat now, but also reflect on the ever-increasing truth of Steven Colbert's immortal, "reality has a well-known liberal bias" line.

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I'm suspicious that the polls favor either party universally. I know in the Indiana 7th Congressional District (Indianapolis, basically) the polls have shown a close race the last 3 cycles. But the actual election occurs and the long-time incumbent Democrat wins by 8% or more. And yet I kept hearing this time that the polls were different and more accurate. Whatever...


 

The last elections here underlined very heavily just how useless polls are, although the last election here was kind of unusual.

The polls were all variously saying that either Labour or National were ahead by 6-7%, depending on the poll. They also showed all of the larger minor parties as having ~8-10 seats each.

Election comes around - Labour narrowly wins and the minor parties all end up with only a 3-6 seats each, with the Maori party getting 4 seats instead of the projected 0.

Turns out that rural areas heavily favoured National and urban areas heavily favoured Labour, so any poll that was conducted primarily in those types of areas would have results that leant in their favour.

So much for polls, all of which claimed 3-5% margin of error and were well outside that range on election night.

A further complicating factor in that particular election is that you couldn't look at the poll results from the previous election and use them as a guide - National had its lowest turnout since the parties inception back in the 1800's, getting only 22% of the vote. Some political commentators were saying that at those levels, it could basically be considered to be a 'large minor party'. The minor parties all picked up the slack, with the Greens getting 13 seats (they now have 6), NZ First getting something like 8 (now has 5 or so) and the christian coalition getting 9 or so, now on 6.


 

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