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BlackChampagne -- no longer new; improvement also in question.: A "Stronger" Question



Wednesday, September 26, 2007  

A "Stronger" Question


I assume everyone's heard this song by now, perhaps many more times than you would have liked. I enjoy it; it's no Golddigger but it's catchy and has some nice verses, though there's at least 50% more of that digitized voice in the choruses than I think strictly necessary. I just have one question. What exactly is entailed in being a "my black Kate Moss tonight" ?

Update: Here's the video, for easier clicking. Not sure why I didn't think to include an embedded in the first place.



Thanks to the a comment by Jordan, I know that the endlessly sampled digitized voice is from Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger by Daft Punk. And thanks to a pointer from Malaya, I see that Hanzis Matter has posted a long dissection of the Hanzi characters seen in the video; unsurprisingly, most of them are meaningless, or at best poorly translated. That there were Hanzis in the video at all was news to me; I had played the video any number of times, but hadn't ever actually watched more than a few seconds of it. I figured it was another example of the impossibly vain Kanye prancing around in one his weird faux-preppy outfits, but I just clicked through it and saw that it was some sort of Blade Runner-esque futuristic Tokyo scifi thing. Good for him.

Neither item of feedback has yet addressed my initial question though, which expressed curiosity as to what being a "black Kate Moss tonight" meant. It's a catchy line, but I can't see how it's real flattering to anyone. Kate Moss is famous for being a model, but inexplicably so. She's one of those, "Why is she a supermodel again?" types, where she's not very pretty, or sexy, or charismatic, but somehow she is on every runway and sells perfume in every issue of Vogue. She doesn't sing, she doesn't act, she doesn't host a TV show, and she's only gained in some recent fame for repeatedly dating and breaking up and reconciling with the greasy, scab-encrusted, multi-junkie Pete Doughtery.

So Kanye's rhyme is either comparing his hypothetical ebony paramour to bony Kate Moss, or else comparing himself to Pete Doughtery. And I don't see why either interpretation is a desirable one, from Kanye's POV.

Finally, I'd like to point out that there is no consensus how to spell the man's name. "West" people are pretty sure about, but a YouTube search on "kanye west stronger" gets 1840 results, and a YouTube search on "kayne west stronger" gets 1980 returns. N before Y, except after... pie?

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The digitized voice in the chorus is actually a whole other song. Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger by Daft Punk.

I kinda like Stronger by Kanye West, but I have exactly the opposite problem with it to you. The voice in the chorus always makes me wish it were just the original by Daft Punk, not this remix for Kanye.


 

I gues Doughtery is some kind of joke us non-natives don't understand, or you're making fun of the wrong spelling mistake ;)


 

Yeah, also the daft punk song is pretty ironic, whereas kanye took the most shallow, literal interpretation of the lyrics -- and made it less groovy. Also the daft punk backing track itself is almost entirely sampled from a single song... an early 70s soul song, I'm pretty sure.

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